I hope many readers will listen to the conversation between Redi Tlhabi and Cas Coovadia in 4 December where Redi introduces the topic of SA-USA relations concerning the sanctimonious articles and opinions by largely white optionistas who lecture SA government about how to be more diplomatic with the USA. I too find this extremely patronising and unconstructive. Please inform yourselves before you offer unwanted and silly advice! Inside the B20 breakthrough: Redi Tlhabi Talks to Cas Coovadia