The manosphere

Have you noticed a pushback by good men against the manosphere? Marianne Thamm @Thammenator wants to know your experiences.

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From very few sadly. Some from other countries on social media, but sadly have not noticed many in South Africa, even in my social circle of apparently “good” men. I get the sense, from “not all men” & adjacent comments that some would like to support/join/speak up for/feel understood by the manosphere but feel they cannot express this due to social pressure.

A few in my family pushback, thankfully.

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Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez standing up against Trump’s blustering and bullying?
Proteas bowler Keshav Maharaj going over to the Proteas women’s team to show them some spinning tricks?
Pope Leo’s ministry thus far?

In my immediate circle, my son-in-law accompanying my daughter this coming Sunday to check out three-wheel baby strollers for the young one arriving in June?

Achingly little. My experience in the last 7 days has been of good men joining in with others at body-shaming a woman in our social group, objectification of my 68 year old body, mocking me at a tough sports event where only 2 women were participating in a group of 80 men and boys. One tiny glimpse of hope - my 89 year old father apologised to me for not considering my 4 sisters and I equal to our one brother.

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:enraged_face: I find myself feeling very angry about it all

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Hi @Thammenator - I would love to connect with you on the Manosphere topic. My client Craig Wilkinson is a men’s development expert and author. In this podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik3PM-telaw&feature=youtu.be Craig Wilkinson discusses Louis Theroux’s disturbing Netflix documentary ‘Inside the Manosphere’, which highlights the rise of extreme online influencers shaping young men’s views on masculinity. His recent book “Force for Good: The Power of Healthy Masculinity”, unpacks this topic and redefines what it means to be a man in today’s world. Please pop me a mail gail@scoopcommunications.co.za

You don’t solve a problem like the manosphere without fixing the environment that creates it. It’s gang culture on a societal scale. Driven by inequality and the product of gross, unchecked capitalism. Capitalism breeds a competition for control of resources, which manifests as the manosphere.

Apologies for the mansplaination, but until we have that conversation and rearchitect the business structure that governs our societies, we will never be rid of the deep rooted cancer living in our humanity. Exploitation is just another form of laziness.

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What a fabulous question! I had a really interesting experience around this. I only recently clicked onto this whole sub-section of society and was aghast, really. I mean, I know I shouldn’t have been, but I was. So I mentioned this to a man in my life (who also hadn’t heard of it but subsequently looked it up). He was completely lacking in any form of comprehension as to why I would find this discovery—and indeed the substance thereof—so utterly depressing and more than that, angering. I was angry for days! And then, irony of all ironies, a male friend (different one) said in a social setting the very next week (I summarize) “the problem with the world today is educated women, and that they are also having fewer babies”. I was gobsmacked. This, said to my husband, who is married to a PhD and we are child free. Did he not think? Or did he think my husband was a safe space in which this statement was not going to be challenged?? He was right. It wasn’t challenged—in the interests of maintaining a male friendship. Suffice to say this (the above debacle) became the substance of more than one therapy session….

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